To W. T. Thiselton-Dyer [19 December 1875]1
Down, | Beckenham, Kent. | Railway Station | Orpington. S.E.R.
Sunday
(Home tomorrow)
Dear Dyer.
It was a good job that I saw Bates, for the black-ballers had been with him; after some talk he declared that he would vote for R. Lankester, & persuade as many as he could to follow same course.2
Ramsay3 will do what he can, but I think this is little. Gould4 too ill to attend— Lowne writes that he will attend,5 & do all that he can with others. I wrote yesterday to Jenner Weir.—6
Some People say council too much of a “Kew clique”—7 other says not enough Zoologists on council. I cannot but think it wd be well to avoid in next council the former accusation, however false it may be.
F. Galton hears there will be severe struggle on the 3d.—8
I forgot to say that I saw Flower & it required rather long talk, but he ended by saying he wd. certainly come & vote for Lankester.9
Bates says he believes that Murie10 has been the head of the opposition.
I had got thus far when Dr. Murie called instead of answering my letter.11 He was most civil & cordial & expressed unbounded regret at opposing anyone supported by me; but I gather that he will oppose Lankester tooth & nail. He declared most solemnly that he was not in the least opposed to L. personally & that he acted solely because he did not think it was a case in which the Fees ought to be remitted.12 I find that this is a very general impression, & I fear that the council has made a great mistake. Some of the opponents urge that L. afforded to enter Royal last year.—13 I stuck to my line of argument that whether or not Council was wrong, yet that it was cruel to black-ball L. He & others have argued that they can oppose the Council in no other way. They declare that the Council does not fairly represent the Socy. & that old members are reelected in a circle.— I have no opinion whether there is any truth in this; but if I were on the Council, I would urge that several of the dissentients shd be put on Council. Between 30 & 40 years ago there was just the same feeling in Geolog. Soc. & this was cured by putting the complainers on the Council.—14 Please read all this latter part of my letter to Hooker; & ask him whether he has read Ld. Derby’s speech at Edinburgh about Science, which seems to me very good.—15
I shd. add that Murie declared most deliberately that Mr Mivart knew nothing whatever about the opposition to Lankester.—16 Well it is a great misfortune, but the case must be decided by the ballot-box.
Yours very sincerely | Ch. Darwin
Footnotes
Bibliography
Correspondence: The correspondence of Charles Darwin. Edited by Frederick Burkhardt et al. 29 vols to date. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. 1985–.
Herries Davies, Gordon L. 2007. Whatever is under the earth: the Geological Society of London 1807 to 2007. London: Geological Society.
Summary
CD’s attempts to get support for Lankester among Fellows of the Linnean Society. He has encountered opposition to the Council.
Letter details
- Letter no.
- DCP-LETT-10308
- From
- Charles Robert Darwin
- To
- William Turner Thiselton-Dyer
- Sent from
- London, Bryanston St, 2
- Source of text
- Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew (Thiselton-Dyer, W.T., Letters from Charles Darwin 1873–81: 52–5)
- Physical description
- ALS 8pp
Please cite as
Darwin Correspondence Project, “Letter no. 10308,” accessed on 26 September 2022, https://www.darwinproject.ac.uk/letter/?docId=letters/DCP-LETT-10308.xml
Also published in The Correspondence of Charles Darwin, vol. 23