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From C. E. Norton   17 May 1881

Cambridge, Massachusetts.

May 17, 1881.

My dear Mr. Darwin

It was very kind of you to send me the interesting extract from your Father’s memoranda respecting Franklin, and I thank you heartily for it and for your note.1 That Franklin had a good opinion of Louis XVI. was well known. He speaks of him in one of his published letters as “that young and virtuous prince”, but I do not think there is anywhere in his published correspondence so full and direct an expression of the regard in which he held the king as that preserved by your Father.2

Your recollections of your Father’s report of the manners of Franklin’s grandsons to their grandfather, and of his bearing toward them, are also very interesting as illustrative of his character.3

These grandsons were mere boys at the time that Franklin took them with him to France. The elder of them was William Temple Franklin, who was 17 or 18 years old at this time; the younger was Benjamin Franklin Bache, a child of seven. In 1784 William Temple Franklin was his grandfather’s secretary, and Franklin in one of his letters of that year speaks highly of him. It is by no means unlikely, however, that the young man, who became very much of a Frenchman and lived and died in France, was tried by the old man’s simplicity and indifference to the exigencies of fashion.

I find in Sparks’s edition of the Works of Franklin, a note from your grandfather to him, which, as you may not have a copy of it, and as it is an indication of their very friendly relations, I transcribe for you.4

In a footnote appended to it Mr. Sparks says: “An acquaintance of long standing, and a correspondence on philosophical subjects, seem to have subsisted between Dr. Franklin and Dr. Darwin, but none of Franklin’s letters to Darwin have come within my researches. The only record of their intercourse contained in Miss Seward’s ‘Memoirs of Dr. Darwin’ is the following anecdote.” He then cites the story of Dr. Darwin’s directing a letter to Dr. Franklin, America, and his saying that “he felt inclined to make a still more flattering superscription; Dr Franklin, the World.’” Seward’s Memoirs of Dr. Darwin, p.1525

If among Dr. Darwin’s papers you have found any of Dr. Franklin’s letters of which you would be willing to let me have a copy, I should be greatly obliged to you for them; or it would be still better if you would publish them. Everything relating to Franklin is of interest. His reputation does not diminish. Indeed he becomes more and more conspicuous as the most vigorous original thinker that America has yet produced.

We have all been very glad to hear of your son William’s improvement. I trust that he will soon feel no remaining ill-effects from his fall.6

Your note gives me real pleasure as an indication, which I hope is to be trusted, of your being in good condition.

I beg you to offer my best respects and kindest regards (and in this message my sister7 desires to join with me) to Mrs. Darwin,—and to believe me, with the highest respect | Most sincerely Yours | C. E. Norton.

I wish you would kindly give my best remembrances to Mrs. Lichfield, Miss Darwin, & your sons.8

[Enclosure]

Lichfield,

24 January, 1774.

Dear Sir,

I have enclosed a medico-philosophical paper, which I should take it as a favor if you will communicate to the Royal Society, if you think it worthy a place in their volume; otherwise, I must desire you to return it to the writer.9 I have another very curious paper containing experiments on the colors seen in the closed eye, after having gazed some time on luminous objects, which is not quite transcribed, but which I will also send to you, if you think it is likely to be acceptable to the Society at this time, but will otherwise let it lie by me another year.10

I hope you continue to enjoy your health, and that I shall some time again have the pleasure of seeing you at Staffordshire.11

I am, dear Sir, | Your affectionate friend, | Erasmus Darwin.

Footnotes

See letter to C. E. Norton, 30 April 1881; CD had sent a copy of a note written by his father, Robert Waring Darwin, in which R. W. Darwin recorded comments by Benjamin Franklin regarding Louis XVI.
The letter by Franklin was published in Sparks ed. 1836–40, 8: 484–91. It was dated 9 August 1780 and was addressed to the president of Congress, Samuel Huntington.
Norton’s transcription of the letter from Erasmus Darwin to Franklin, published in Jared Sparks’s Works of Benjamin Franklin (Sparks ed. 1836–40, 6: 410–11), has not been found. The text has been added from the printed source, in which the spelling was somewhat altered from the original and a postscript left out. The postscript reads, ‘NB. If Dr. Franklin is not in England, I hope the Person intrusted to read his Letters will return the inclosed Papers to Dr. Darwin at Lichfield Staffordshire, which will be gratefully acknowledged.’ For the text of the letter in its unaltered form, see Willcox ed. 1978, pp. 24–5.
The anecdote was related by Anna Seward in A. Seward 1804, pp. 152–3.
William Erasmus Darwin was recuperating from a head injury (see letter to C. E. Norton, 30 April 1881 and n. 5).
Jane Norton. The Nortons had visited Down in 1869 (see Correspondence vol. 17, letter to Asa Gray, 1 June [1869], n. 12).
Franklin had been a member of the Royal Society of London since 1756. He communicated Erasmus Darwin’s paper ‘Experiments on animal fluids in the exhausted receiver’, which was read in March 1774 and published in the Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society of London (E. Darwin 1774).
Erasmus Darwin did not publish his paper but evidently assisted his son Robert Waring Darwin on his paper ‘New experiments on the ocular spectra of light and colours’ (R. W. Darwin 1786; see Erasmus Darwin, p. 84, for CD’s assessment of Erasmus’s contribution).
Franklin had last visited Erasmus Darwin in 1772 (see Uglow 2002, p. 238). He had been in England since October 1764, and returned to America in March 1774 (ANB).

Bibliography

Correspondence: The correspondence of Charles Darwin. Edited by Frederick Burkhardt et al. 29 vols to date. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. 1985–.

Darwin, Erasmus. 1774. Experiments on animal fluids in the exhausted receiver. [Read 24 March 1774.] Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society of London 64: 344–9.

Darwin, Robert Waring. 1786. New experiments on the ocular spectra of light and colours. [Read 23 March 1786.] Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society 76: 313–48.

Erasmus Darwin. By Ernst Krause. Translated from the German by W. S. Dallas, with a preliminary notice by Charles Darwin. London: John Murray. 1879.

Seward, Anna. 1804. Memoirs of the life of Dr. Darwin. London: J. Johnson.

Sparks, Jared, ed. 1836–40. The works of Benjamin Franklin: containing several political and historical tracts not included in any former edition, and many letters official and private not hitherto published, with notes and a life of the author. 10 vols. Boston: Hillard Gray.

Uglow, Jenny. 2002. The lunar men: the friends who made the future, 1730–1810. London: Faber and Faber.

Willcox, William B., ed. 1978. The papers of Benjamin Franklin, vol. 21. January 1, 1774, through March 22, 1775. New Haven and London: Yale University Press.

Summary

Thanks CD for R. W. Darwin’s memoranda respecting Franklin. Would be grateful for copies of any Franklin letters that exist among Dr Darwin’s papers.

Letter details

Letter no.
DCP-LETT-13160
From
Charles Eliot Norton
To
Charles Robert Darwin
Sent from
Cambridge, Mass.
Source of text
DAR 172: 77; Sparks ed. 1836–40, 6: 410–11
Physical description
ALS 7pp

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