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Letter 6195

Darwin, C. R. to Bates, H. W.

21 May [1868]

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    Lists specimens he wants from Mr Janson, emphasising that he always wants male and female.

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    He extends an invitation for a Sunday in early June.


Down. | Bromley. | Kent. S.E.

May 21

My dear Bates

Cordial thanks.—

You must not hurry yourself. You understand that I always want male & female.

I shd like

Typhœus English species

Copris (not English sp.)

Geotrupes 2 sp.


4 or 5 or 6 other genera, some differing much, some differing little according to sex. in external appearance

I heard in Chile Chiasognathus Grantii squeaking loudly so I wd gladly pay £1 for a pr, if they can be bought: I brought home a dozen sps. but gave them all away.

If the beetles do not come named, & they prove interesting, I dare say you cd put me up to getting them named.

Will you pay Mr Janson for me? or ask him to send me a mem.? any how I shd like his address so that I might apply for more specimens if the result proves interesting, which I don't expect.

Should you be able to come down the early part of next month & spend the Sunday here; it wd give us very great pleasure to see you & it wd make it pleasant to Mr Jenner Weir who has been extraordinarily kind & whom I want to invite here.

With many thanks | yours very sincerely | Charles Darwin

We cd send to station on Saturday evening & on the Monday Morning.

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    f1 6195.f1
    The year is established by the relationship between this letter and the letter from H. W. Bates, 20 May 1868.
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    f2 6195.f2
    See letter from H. W. Bates, 20 May 1868.
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    f3 6195.f3
    Typhaeus, a dung beetle. In Descent, both spellings appear.
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    f4 6195.f4
    CD refers to Chiasognathus granti. See Descent 1: 377, p. 403, Correspondence vol. 1, letter to J. S. Henslow, 24 July -- 7 November 1834 and n. 11, and R. D. Keynes 2000. The specimen of C. granti collected by CD in Chile is at the Natural History Museum in London.
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    f5 6195.f5
    CD refers to Edward Westey Janson. See letter from H. W. Bates, 20 May 1868.
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    f6 6195.f6
    John Jenner Weir.
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