Bates, H. W. to Darwin, C. R.
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Miocene glacial period a remarkable discovery; if it is true, enlargement of Tertiary period necessary.
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Received German monograph on Chilean Carabi that does not answer where isolated species came from.
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HWB finds genital modifications of Chrysomela strong support for the theory.
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Thanks for copy of Orchids.
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King St Leicester
19 May /62
My Dear M
The discovery of signs of a glacial period in Miocene times is very remarkable as I dare say you have thought, in as much as the whole tertiary <ep>och has been always considered a time of greater warmth than the present in the Northern Hemisphere. But if it turns out a cold epoch intervened in middle of the tertiary it would only compel us to enlarge the lapse of time allowed to the whole.
I have just received the German monograph on Chilian Carabi. It is very complete. The author is of high reputation. He concludes that the 11 species form only a section of the genus although very closely allied amongst themselves & distinct as a body from all Carabi of the Northern Hemisphere. He anticipates no future discovery to modify <current> conclusions on the Geographical distribution of the genus. No Carabus has been found within the tropics & none beyond the Southern tropic in Eastern Hemisphere He goes into many inquiries arising out of the subject but strange to say does not start the question ``Whence came these isolated Chilian Carabi?''
I never thought of modifications in horny genital apparatus of closely-allied
Chrysomelæ being a difficulty <for the> theory. Quite the contrary it see<ms that> they were a strong support of
it. M
< > modifications have scarcely ever been <called for>, even in the whole specific char<acter or> special organs. Mr Janson, an <entom>ologist tells me there is a difference <in genital> apparatus between two English <Carabi> C. hybrida & C. maritima. Now <modern> <en>tomologists, on the most conclusive <evidenc>e have re-united these two. It appears <h>owever the two are more distinct in England than on the Continent! This is what I should expect from observations on S. American insects. There is a gradual divergence amongst varieties of a species over a wide area. Who would think of examining the genital apparatus through all the graduated series of vars. of these Cicindelæ?
Thanks for the copy of ``Orchids''. I have read it through with great pleasure. It is very clear.— In Ann. Nat. Hist. for June you will see a note of mine on a new way of regarding local varieties I have sent in an application for British Museum. situation but it will be of little use. Something else may turn up soon
Yours sincerely H W Bates
I go tomorrow to London, for three days chiefly to see the artist about finishing the plates for Linnean Transactions. I shall call on Murray. Can I do anything for you. The address 43 Harwood St Hampstead road will find me.
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See letters to H. W. Bates, 4 May [1862] and 9 May [1862]. - +
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Gerstaecker 1858. - +
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See letter to H. W. Bates, 9 May [1862] and n. 5. - +
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The entomologist Joseph Sugar Baly was a leading authority on phytophagous Coleoptera (Modern English biography). - +
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Edward Westley Janson was the curator of the Entomological Society of London. - +
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Bates's name appears on CD's list of presentation copies of this work (see Correspondence vol. 10, Appendix IV). - +
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Bates refers to the final section of Bates 1862b. In ibid., p. 451, having described some local varieties of Anisocerus onca, Bates stated:It is the custom of naturalists, when they subordinate varieties to a species, to fix upon one of the forms as the original, to which the rest are referred: this original is generally the one first described or best known … but, strictly speaking, no form can be said to be a variety of another existing form unless it can be proved or shown to be highly probable that the one descended from the other, this other itself remaining meanwhile unchanged. - +
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The reference is to an assistantship in the department of zoology at the British Museum (see letter from H. W. Bates, 30 April 1862, and letters to H. W. Bates, 4 May [1862] and 9 May [1862]). - +
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Edward W. Robinson drew the coloured illustrations for Bates 1862a. - +
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John Murray was to publish Bates's account of his travels in Brazil (Bates 1863). See the letters to H. W. Bates, 31 January [1862] and 27 [February 1862] concerning Bates's arrangement with Murray. - +
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CD probably refers to chapter 4 of his `big book' on species, on `Variation under nature'.