Thanks AG for his criticisms of CD's views; finds it difficult to avoid using the term "natural selection" as an agent.
Discusses crossing in Fumaria and barnacles.
Has received a naturally crossed kidney bean in which the seed-coat has been affected by the pollen of the fertilising plant.
Finds the rule of large genera having most varieties holds good and regards it as most important for his "principle of divergence".
Down Bromley Kent
My dear Gray
This shall be such an extraordinary note as you have never received from me, for it
shall not contain one single question or request. I thank you for your
impression on my views. Every criticism from a good man is of
value to me. What you hint at generally is very very true, that my work will be
grievously hypothetical & large parts by no means worthy of being called
inductive; my commonest error being probably induction from too few facts.— I
had not thought of your objection of my using the term “natural
Selection” as an agent; I use it much as a geologist does the word Denudation,
for an agent, expressing the result of several combined actions. I will take care to
explain, not merely by inference, what I mean by the term; for I must use it, otherwise
Many thanks for seed & specimens of Adlumia:
I must confess from what I have seen in Bees whilst sucking Fumaria, I see no difficulty
whatever in Bees crossing the individuals: & I would venture to predict that it
has a nectary on both sides instead of on only one side, for the sort of cap of
joined petals can be pushed with equal easiness both ways, but where there is only one
nectary it can be pushed (as far as I have seen) only one way: Lecoq, I observe, brings
forward Fumaria as a genus which c
I sent you Gardeners Chronicle with little notice on Kidney Beans: since writing it, I have received a most curious lot of Beans naturally crossed, & the seed-coats affected by the act of fertilisation like Gærtners Pea case.— By the way I must tell you what I heard yesterday, though not in your line, but on subject of the crossing of individuals. Barnacles (Balanus) are hermaphrodite & with their well shut up shell offer as great a difficulty to crossing as can well be conceived: I found an individual with monstrous & imperforate penis, but yet with fertilised ova; but I did not know whether it might not be case of parthogenesis or a strange accident of some floating spermatozoa; well yesterday I had an account by a man who watching some shells, saw one protrude its long probosciformed penis, & insert it in the shell of an adjoining individual! So here is a load off my mind.—
You speak of species not having any material base to rest on; but is this any greater hardship than deciding what deserves to be called a variety & be designated by a greek letter. When I was at systematic work, I know I longed to have no other difficulty (great enough) than deciding whether the form was distinct enough to deserve a name; & not to be haunted with undefined & unanswerable question whether it was a true species. What a jump it is from a well marked variety, produced by natural cause, to a species produced by the separate act of the Hand of God. But I am running on foolishly.— By the way I met the other day Phillips, the Palæontologist, & he asked me “how do you define a species?”— I answered “I cannot” Whereupon he said “at last I have found out the only true definition,—‘any form which has ever had a specific name”!
I am infinitely obliged to you for your offer (if you can ever find time, & how much overworked you seem to be) of considering again a list of close species, such as Hooker would perhaps lump together: you could not do me a more essential service.
If you do it, will you please take, if in your power, large &
small orders as they come, for possibly there may be some difference in the
rule in large natural & small broken families. I intend to go into this with
Ledebour, as far as mere varieties are concerned. In all
Ledebour & many other Floras, I find the rule universal of the large
genera presenting most varieties. In the British Flora, by
Forgive me, & believe | My dear Gray | Yours heartily obliged | C. Darwin
How I wish I knew what large, (for large it must be) Moth or Humble Bee visits
& fertilises Lobelia fulgens in its native home: do you know any southern young
Botanist who w
- f1 2176.f1Dated by the relationship to the letter to Asa Gray, 5 September .
- f2 2176.f2Gray's letter has not been found. It evidently responded to CD's explanation of his theory of natural selection, as put forward in letter to Asa Gray, 5 September .
- f3 2176.f3CD included a definition of natural selection along these lines in Natural selection, p. 175, and Origin, p. 61.
- f4 2176.f4This case is also cited in Natural selection, p. 200.
- f5 2176.f5See letter from Asa Gray, [August 1857].
- f6 2176.f6Lecoq 1845, p. 61.
- f7 2176.f7See Natural selection, pp. 53–4, in which CD discussed the visiting of Fumaria by bees. See also letter to Asa Gray, 20 July , in which CD gives other examples to illustrate his view.
- f8 2176.f8See letter to Gardeners' Chronicle, 18 October .
- f9 2176.f9See letters from Henry Coe, 4 November 1857 and 14 November 1857. CD refers to the cases of seed-coats being affected by pollen from a different species reported in Gärtner 1849 (see letter to M. J. Berkeley, 29 February ).
- f10 2176.f10CD described this case in Living Cirripedia (1854): 102 and referred to it in both Natural selection, p. 45, and Origin, p. 101. See also Correspondence vol. 4, letter to Louis Agassiz, 22 October 1848.
- f11 2176.f11See letter from Richard Bishop to Charles Spence Bate, 3 December 1857.
- f12 2176.f12See Correspondence vol. 4, letters to H. E. Strickland, 29 January , [4 February 1849], and 10 February . See also Correspondence vol. 5, letter to J. D. Hooker, 25 September .
- f13 2176.f13CD may have spoken to John Phillips at the meeting of the Philosophical Club of the Royal Society on 19 November 1857 at which both were present (Royal Society Philosophical Club minutes).
- f14 2176.f14Gray had already provided CD with a list of ‘close species’ (see Correspondence vol. 5, letter to Asa Gray, 8 June , and letter from Asa Gray, 30 June 1855). The manuscript list is in DAR 165: 92/3.
- f15 2176.f15Ledebour 1842–53.
- f16 2176.f16See Natural selection, pp. 148–54.
- f17 2176.f17See letters from H. C. Watson, 14 December  and 20 December .
- f18 2176.f18See Natural selection, pp. 227–51, and Origin, pp. 111–26.