Darwin, C. R. to Chambers, Robert
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Comments on David Milne's paper ["On the parallel roads of Lochaber" (1847), Trans. R. Soc. Edinburgh 16 (1849): 395–418]. CD still believes in marine origin. Rejects barrier of detritus at mouth of Glen Roy. If roads were formed by lake, it must have been ice-lake.
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Comments on evidence of glaciers and icebergs in North Wales. Thinks pass caused by tidal channel, not river. Suggests that RC make altitude measurements at various points.
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Extract from Letter from C. Darwin to R. Chambers 11 Sept
1847 I hope you will read the first part of my paper before
you go (to Glen Roy) & attend to the manner in
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Conceive such a mass of detritus hav
Have you ever attended to Glacier action? After having seen N. Wales, I can no
more doubt the former existence of gigantic glaciers, than I can the Sun in the Heaven.
I could distinguish in N. Wales to a certain extent Iceberg from Glacier
Action— (Lyell has shown that Icebergs at the
present day score rocks,) & I suspect that in
Lochaber the two actions are united, & that the scored rock on the water sheds,
when tideways, were rubbed & bumped by half stranded Icebergs. You will no doubt
attend to Glen Glastig. M
With respect to the coincidence of the shelves with the now water sheds,
M
Shall you do any levelling? I believe all the levelling has
been in Glen Roy, nearly parallel to the Great Glen of
Scotl
Macculloch talks of one in Glen Turret above the Shelf 1. I
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A typed and edited copy of this letter, for ML 2: 177–80, is in DAR 143. It was evidently based on the handwritten copy used for the above transcription. - +
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The date possibly reads ‘16 Sept 1847’. - +
- f3 1119.f3
Chambers made a second visit to Glen Roy in the autumn of 1847 (Chambers 1848, pp. 116–17). - +
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CD claimed that the lines in Glen Collarig died out gradually (see ‘Observations on the parallel roads of Glen Roy’, Collected papers 1: 113). He concluded that the gradual disappearance of the lines was evidence for marine beaches rather than a lake shore, which presumably would terminate abruptly at a barrier. Chambers addressed this subject in Ancient sea margins, stating that the gradual disappearance of the lines presented the weakest point of David Milne's argument for the lake theory. See Chambers 1848, pp. 112–13. - +
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See letter to Charles Lyell, 8 [September 1847], n. 5. - +
- f6 1119.f6
An error for Glen Glaster. It is likely that CD used the word ‘Glastig’ in his original letter, see letter to Charles Lyell, 8 [September 1847], n. 18, in which the same mistake occurs. - +
- f7 1119.f7
The reference is to CD's ‘buttresses’, described in Collected papers 1: 102–4. See also letter to Charles Lyell, 8 [September 1847]. - +
- f8 1119.f8
According to Milne, the rock at the outlet was ‘all smooth and rounded on the side facing the SW. or WSW’. He further noted many erratic boulders that had been carried there from the west (Milne 1849, pp. 412–13). - +
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Letter to Charles Lyell, 8 [September 1847]. - +
- f10 1119.f10
CD had visited North Wales in 1842; he published his observations, and his theory of combined glacial and iceberg activity, in ‘Notes on the effects produced by the ancient glaciers of Caernarvonshire’, Collected papers 1: 163–71. - +
- f11 1119.f11
See C. Lyell 1845, 2: 173–5. Lyell described a furrowed coastal ledge in Nova Scotia; a local resident told him that during the previous winter the bay had indeed been covered with a sheet of ice which the tides moved back and forth across the rocky ledge. - +
- f12 1119.f12
Milne 1849, p. 398. Milne in fact does state that shelf four enters Glen Glaster, at the head of which he discovered the col coincident in level with shelf three. - +
- f13 1119.f13
Roches moutonn’{ees} are rocks which have been subjected to glacial action and are rounded ‘like a sheep's back’ (OED). - +
- f14 1119.f14
Milne 1849, p. 399. The pass of Mukkull is described as ‘the grandest exhibition of an ancient river-course’ in the area. See CD's remarks on the subject in his letter to Charles Lyell, 8 [September 1847]. - +
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The transcription by Francis Darwin in ML 2: 177–80 is ‘Glen Roy’, but ‘Gluy’ in the handwritten copy is undoubtedly a misreading of ‘Gluoy’. CD had searched Glen Roy but did not enter Glen Gluoy. - +
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See letter to Charles Lyell, 8 [September 1847]. - +
- f17 1119.f17
According to Chambers (1848, p. 99), he requested a levelling survey to be made of Glen Roy. However, he does not make clear whether it was during his first or second visit to Glen Roy. - +
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Shelves at separate heights in separate glens would represent strong evidence for independent lakes. - +
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John MacCulloch described a ‘supernumerary’ line above the uppermost shelf within Glen Roy at the entrance to Glen Turret, but not extending into it (MacCulloch 1817, pp. 323–4). CD referred to the absence of this line in Collected papers 1: 134 n. 23. - +
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Constant Prévost, professor of geology at Paris university, argued in Prévost 1840 that the sea level had fallen rather than that the land had been elevated. - +
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In the typed copy of this letter used for ML, this sentence was edited by Francis Darwin to read: ‘I have lately observed, that you have one great authority, (C. Prevost) [not?] that authority signifies a [farthing?] on your side respecting your heretical and damnable doctrine of the Ocean falling.’ (ML 2: 180). - +
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Chambers stated that, because of the uniformity and apparent correspondence of level of ancient sea beaches he had studied, he preferred a withdrawing sea to an upheaving earth (Chambers 1848, pp. 5–6).