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DCP-LETT-5017A

Summary

Undertakes to pay two-thirds of profits of the [fourth] edition of Origin as soon as one-half of the copies are sold.

Author:  John Murray
Addressee:  Charles Robert Darwin
Date:  24 Feb [1866]
Classmark:  National Library of Scotland (John Murray Archive)
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-5017A

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From John Murray   30 May [1866]

Summary

On reflection, in view of the extensive additions CD has made to Origin, has decided to print 1500 copies [of 4th ed.].

Author:  John Murray
Addressee:  Charles Robert Darwin
Date:  30 May [1866]
Classmark:  DAR 171: 335
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-5105

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From John Murray   23 July [1866]

Summary

Will attend to CD’s wishes regarding six presentation copies [of Origin, 4th ed.] for England and America.

Author:  John Murray
Addressee:  Charles Robert Darwin
Date:  23 July [1866]
Classmark:  DAR 171: 337
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-5164

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From John Murray   24 December [1866]

Summary

Two parcels of MS [of Variation] have arrived. Will proceed with printing immediately after Christmas.

Author:  John Murray
Addressee:  Charles Robert Darwin
Date:  24 Dec [1866]
Classmark:  DAR 171: 341
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-5322

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From John Murray   21 February [1866]

Summary

Informs CD third edition of Origin is exhausted. Proposes a new edition. Has CD any changes? Since demand is slowing up, proposes printing only 1250 copies and deferring payment of CD’s share until sales have repaid manufacturing costs.

Author:  John Murray
Addressee:  Charles Robert Darwin
Date:  21 Feb [1866]
Classmark:  DAR 171: 333
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-5014

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From John Murray   25 May [1866]

Summary

Printing [of 4th edition of Origin] nearly complete. Will print 1000 copies which, at present rate of sale, may last three to five years.

Author:  John Murray
Addressee:  Charles Robert Darwin
Date:  25 May [1866]
Classmark:  DAR 171: 334
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-5099

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From John Murray   25 October [1866]

Summary

Under circumstances [reluctance of Ticknor & Fields to compete with Appleton], best course is to offer Appleton the 250 copies [of 4th English edition of Origin].

Author:  John Murray
Addressee:  Charles Robert Darwin
Date:  25 Oct [1866]
Classmark:  DAR 171: 339
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-5255

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From John Murray   22 December [1866]

Summary

The presentation copy [of Origin, 4th ed.] was sent to B. D. Walsh in August. Will send another.

Author:  John Murray
Addressee:  Charles Robert Darwin
Date:  22 Dec [1866]
Classmark:  DAR 171: 340
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-5317

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From John Murray   24 February [1866]

Summary

Sends sheets of Origin [4th edition] for CD to correct [for 3d German edition?].

Still has 600 copies of Orchids, but deficit reduced to £30.

Undertakes to pay two-thirds of profits of the [fourth] edition of Origin as soon as one-half of the copies are sold.

Author:  John Murray
Addressee:  Charles Robert Darwin
Date:  24 Feb [1866]
Classmark:  DAR 171: 346
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-5417

Matches: 2 hits

  • Murray, John (b) Darwin, C. R. …
  • John Murray, 22 February [1866] and nn.  13 and 14. CD had raised the question of fixing a price with Sowerby in his letter to Murray of 22 February [1866] . Sowerby had nearly completed his illustrations for Variation in October 1866 (see letter to G.  B.   …

To John Murray   16 October [1866]

Summary

Arrangements for woodcuts [in Variation]. Hopes to be ready to print early in 1867.

Encloses letter from Asa Gray [5160] about Appleton’s refusal to alter their plates for a new edition of Origin.

CD asks JM to consider Gray’s plan to have the English edition compete with the American.

Author:  Charles Robert Darwin
Addressee:  John Murray
Date:  16 Oct [1866]
Classmark:  National Library of Scotland (John Murray Archive) (Ms.42152 ff. 147–148)
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-5245

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  • … Darwin, C. R. Murray, John (b) …
  • B.  Tegetmeier, 15 October 1866  and nn.  1 and 2. George Brettingham Sowerby Jr had made illustrations for some of CD’s other works (see Correspondence vols.  5 and 9). For CD’s interest in having Sowerby contribute illustrations to Variation , see the letter to John Murray, …

From John Murray   18 July [1866]

Summary

Proposes to delay issue [of 4th ed. of Origin] until November to obtain better market conditions. Now printing 1250 copies.

Explains practice of not cutting pages is due to propensity of English public to read books without buying them.

Author:  John Murray
Addressee:  Charles Robert Darwin
Date:  18 July [1866]
Classmark:  DAR 171: 336
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-5161

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From John Murray   18 October [1866]

Summary

JM states he will publish [Variation] on same basis as Origin, i.e., paying CD two-thirds of the profits.

In response to Asa Gray’s suggestion, he could supply Ticknor & Fields with 250 copies [of Origin, 4th ed.] at half-price.

Author:  John Murray
Addressee:  Charles Robert Darwin
Date:  18 Oct [1866]
Classmark:  DAR 171: 338
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-5246

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To John Murray   23 October [1866]

Summary

A letter from Asa Gray informs CD that Ticknor & Fields will not publish a new edition of Origin to compete with Appleton’s unrevised edition. They recommend sending copies of the English edition for the American market.

Author:  Charles Robert Darwin
Addressee:  John Murray
Date:  23 Oct [1866]
Classmark:  National Library of Scotland (John Murray Archive) (Ms.42152 ff. 151–152)
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-5253

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To John Murray   28 May [1866]

Summary

Has corrected and improved Origin.

Now hopes to make real progress [on Variation].

Author:  Charles Robert Darwin
Addressee:  John Murray
Date:  28 May [1866]
Classmark:  National Library of Scotland (John Murray Archive) (Ms.42152 ff. 143–144)
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-5103

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To John Murray   15 July [1866]

Summary

4th edition of Origin will soon be bound. Suggests sending copies to scientific periodicals that might notice it. Hopes JM will specify in advertisements that the work is corrected and enlarged. Hopes pages will be cut. Only insanity accounts for this not being done in England.

Author:  Charles Robert Darwin
Addressee:  John Murray
Date:  15 July [1866]
Classmark:  National Library of Scotland (John Murray Archive) (Ms.42152 ff. 145–146)
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-5155

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To John Murray   21 and 22 December [1866]

Summary

Submits the MS of Variation, all excepting the section on Man.

Author:  Charles Robert Darwin
Addressee:  John Murray
Date:  21 and 22 Dec 1866
Classmark:  Herb Sewell (private collection)
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-5314F

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  • … Darwin, C. R. Murray, John (b) …
  • John Murray, 18 October [1866] and n.  3). CD had asked Sowerby to make some revisions to his woodcuts in October (see letter to G.  B.   …

To John Murray   22 February [1866]

Summary

CD is pleased [about need for a new edition of Origin] but even more grieved – for it will delay his next book [Variation]. Progress of natural history will make many changes necessary in Origin. Nevertheless, proceeds with 32 more woodcuts for Variation.

Author:  Charles Robert Darwin
Addressee:  John Murray
Date:  22 Feb [1866]
Classmark:  National Library of Scotland (John Murray Archive) (Ms.42152 ff. 139–142)
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-5016

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  • … Darwin, C. R. Murray, John (b) …
  • John Murray, 1 April 1865 . The ten woodcuts of pigeons and poultry for Variation were being made from drawings by Luke Wells, under the supervision of William Bernhard Tegetmeier (see letter from W.  B.   …

To W. B. Tegetmeier   16 October [1866]

Summary

Hopes to begin printing Variation at the beginning of next year.

Author:  Charles Robert Darwin
Addressee:  William Bernhard Tegetmeier
Date:  16 Oct [1866]
Classmark:  Archives of the New York Botanical Garden (Charles Finney Cox Collection)
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-5244

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  • … 1866 . CD refers to John Murray and Luke Wells (see letter from W.  B.  Tegetmeier, 15  …

To William Bernhard Tegetmeier   16 January [1866]

Summary

What progress has been made with pigeon drawings for Variation?

Can WBT persuade Mr Zurhorst to repeat a pigeon experiment?

Author:  Charles Robert Darwin
Addressee:  William Bernhard Tegetmeier
Date:  16 Jan [1866]
Classmark:  Archives of the New York Botanical Garden (Charles Finney Cox Collection)
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-4977

Matches: 3 hits

  • … vol.  13, letter from W.  B.  Tegetmeier to John Murray and R.  F.  Cooke, 17 April 1865, …
  • John Murray, 31 March [1865] and n.  17). For details of the varieties of pigeon illustrated in Variation , see Correspondence vol.  13, letter to W.  B. …
  • B.  Jones, 3 January [1866] and nn.  2–8, and Correspondence vol.  13, Appendixes II and IV.  CD also refers to his work on Variation , which had occupied him intermittently since January 1860 (see Correspondence vol.  13, letter to John Murray, …

From W. B. Tegetmeier   15 October 1866

Summary

The blocks [for Variation] have been forwarded to Murray.

WBT has been corresponding with Prof. Newton.

Author:  William Bernhard Tegetmeier
Addressee:  Charles Robert Darwin
Date:  15 Oct 1866
Classmark:  DAR 178: 76
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-5243

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  • … vol.  13, letter from W.  B. Tegetmeier to John Murray and R.  F.  Cooke, 17 April 1865). …
  • John Murray, 16 October [1866] . Tegetmeier had overseen the illustrations of pigeons and fowls for Variation (see Correspondence vol.  13, letter from W.  B.   …
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