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To G. J. Romanes   20 August 1878

Down, | Beckenham, Kent. | Railway Station | Orpington. S.E.R. [Barlaston Hall, Staffordshire.]

Aug. 20th/78

My dear Romanes

I am most heartily glad that your Lecture (just received & read) has been so eminently successful.— You have indeed passed a most magnificent eulogium on me, & I wonder that you were not afraid of hearing “oh, oh”, or some other sign of disapprobation.1 Many persons think that what I have done in science has been much overrated, & I very often think so myself; but my comfort is that I have never consciously done anything to gain applause.— Enough & too much about my dear self.— The sole fault which I find with your Lecture is that it is too short, & this is a rare fault— It strikes me as admirably clear & interesting. I meant to have remonstrated that you had not discussed sufficiently, the necessity of signs for the formation of abstract ideas of any complexity, & then I came on the discussion on deaf-mutes.—2 This latter seems to me one of the richest of all the mines, & is worth working carefully for years & very deeply. I shd. like to read whole chapters on this one head, & others on the minds of the higher idiots.—3 Nothing can be better, as it seems to me, than your several lines or sources of evidence, & the manner in which you have arranged the whole subject.

Your book will assuredly be worth years of hard labour, & stick to your subject.— By the way I was pleased at your discussing the selection of varying instincts or mental tendencies, for I have often been disappointed by no one ever having noticed this notion.—4

I have just finished “La Psychologie son present et son avenir” 1876 by Delbœuf (a mathematician & physicist of Belgium) in about 100 pages: it has interested me a good deal, but why I hardly know; it is rather like Herbert Spencer: if you do not know it, & wd care to see it, send me a Post-card.—5

Thank Heaven we return home on Thursday, & I shall be able to go on with my hum-drum work & that makes me forget my daily discomfort.—6

Have you ever thought of keeping a young monkey, so as to observe its mind: at a house where we have been staying there were Sir A. & Lady Hobhouse, not long ago returned from India, & she (& he) kept these young monkeys & told me some curious particulars.7 One was that her monkey was very fond of looking through her eye-glass at objects & moved the glass nearer & further so as to vary the focus: this struck me, as Frank’s son,8 nearly 2 years old (& we think much of his intellect!!) is very fond of looking through my pocket lens, & I have quite in vain endeavoured to teach him not to put the glass close down on the object, but he will always do so. Therefore I conclude that a child—just under 2 years is inferior in intellect to a monkey.

Once again I heartily congratulate you on your well earned present, & I feel assured grand future success. | Yours very truly | Ch. Darwin

Footnotes

See letter from G. J. Romanes, 17 August 1878 and n. 4. Romanes had mentioned CD throughout his lecture and concluded by saying that no single name was worthy of a veneration more profound.
Near the end of his lecture, Romanes discussed the abilities of uneducated deaf-mutes to form higher abstract concepts, and concluded that in the absence of language, human and animal minds were almost on a level (G. J. Romanes 1878b, p. 21).
Romanes had referred to ‘higher idiots’ with excellent powers of memory and computational ability who were nevertheless unable to form simple inferences (G. J. Romanes 1878b, pp. 18–19).
Romanes had given the ability of many animals to ‘sham dead’ as an example of selection of instincts (G. J. Romanes 1878b, pp. 6–7).
Joseph Delboeuf had referred favourably to CD’s theory of natural selection in his book La psychologie comme science naturelle, son présent et son avenir (Psychology as natural science, its present and future; Delboeuf 1876, p. 7). CD made the analogy with Herbert Spencer because Delboeuf’s arguments were mostly speculative rather than based on experimental investigation.
The Darwins were visiting the home of Emma’s brother Frank Wedgwood and his family at Barlaston, Staffordshire; they returned home on 22 August 1878 (Emma Darwin’s diary (DAR 242)).
Arthur and Mary Hobhouse. Hobhouse had been knighted in 1877 on his return from India, where he had served for five years as law member of the council of the viceroy of India (ODNB). Mary Hobhouse was Thomas Henry Farrer’s sister (ODNB s.v. Hobhouse, Arthur). The Darwins stayed at Farrer’s house, Abinger Hall, from 12 to 15 August 1878 (Emma Darwin’s diary (DAR 242)).

Bibliography

Delboeuf, Joseph. 1876. La psychologie comme science naturelle: son présent et son avenir. Brussels: Librairie Européene C. Muquardt.

ODNB: Oxford dictionary of national biography: from the earliest times to the year 2000. (Revised edition.) Edited by H. C. G. Matthew and Brian Harrison. 60 vols. and index. Oxford: Oxford University Press. 2004.

Summary

Comments on GJR’s lecture on animal intelligence [Rep. BAAS].

Comments on J. R. L. Delboeuf, La psychologie [1876].

Suggests that GJR keep a young monkey to observe.

Letter details

Letter no.
DCP-LETT-11671
From
Charles Robert Darwin
To
George John Romanes
Sent from
Down
Source of text
American Philosophical Society (Mss.B.D25.546)
Physical description
ALS 7pp

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Darwin Correspondence Project, “Letter no. 11671,” accessed on 23 April 2024, https://www.darwinproject.ac.uk/letter/?docId=letters/DCP-LETT-11671.xml

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