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DCP-LETT-1652

Summary

Cancelled: same as 1672.

Author:  Charles Lyell, 1st baronet
Addressee:  Charles Robert Darwin
Date:  23 Apr 1855
Classmark:  DAR 146: 474
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-1652

From Charles Lyell   23 April 1855

Summary

CL would like to put Joachim Barrande on the Royal Society’s foreign list. Of French geologists and palaeontologists, he is the man who has made the greatest sacrifices and produced the greatest results.

Author:  Charles Lyell, 1st baronet
Addressee:  Charles Robert Darwin
Date:  23 Apr 1855
Classmark:  Imperial College of Science, Technology, and Medicine Archives (Huxley 6: 7)
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-1672

From Charles Lyell   1–2 May 1856

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Urges CD to publish his theory with small part of data.

Corrects names of land shells on list of shells picked up at Down.

Discusses transport of Ancylus from one river-bed to another by water-beetle.

"I hear that when you & Hooker & Huxley & Wollaston got together you made light of all Species & grew more & more unorthodox."

Mentions discussion of old Atlantis by Oswald Heer.

Comments on Helix and Nanina.

Mentions beetle discovered with small bag of eggs of water-spider under wing.

Madeira evidence favours single species birth-place theory.

Author:  Charles Lyell, 1st baronet
Addressee:  Charles Robert Darwin
Date:  1–2 May 1856
Classmark:  DAR 205.3: 282
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-1862

From Charles Lyell   17 June 1856

Summary

CD forgets an author [CD himself in Coral reefs] "who, by means of atolls, contrived to submerge archipelagoes (or continents?), the mountains of which must originally have differed from each other in height 8,000 (or 10,000?) feet".

CL begins to think that all continents and oceans are chiefly post-Eocene, but he admits that it is questionable how far one is at liberty to call up continents "to convey a Helix from the United States to Europe in Miocene or Pliocene periods".

Will CD explain why the land and marine shells of Porto Santo and Madeira differ while the plants so nearly agree?

Author:  Charles Lyell, 1st baronet
Addressee:  Charles Robert Darwin
Date:  17 June 1856
Classmark:  DAR 146: 475
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-1905

From Charles Lyell   [1 July 1856]

Summary

To cast doubt on CD’s view that volcanic action is associated with elevation of land, CL suggests that local oscillations in strata underlying volcanoes could also explain how active volcanoes have uplifted fossil deposits of marine shells. Overall he is more inclined to believe that recent volcanoes belong to areas of subsidence rather than of elevation.

Author:  Charles Lyell, 1st baronet
Addressee:  Charles Robert Darwin
Date:  [1 July 1856]
Classmark:  Kinnordy MS (private collection)
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-1915A

From Charles Lyell   [16 January 1857]

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Enumerates fossil mammals known in Secondary strata.

Lack of angiosperm plants in rocks older than Chalk is no reason to anticipate rarity of warm-blooded quadrupeds.

Author:  Charles Lyell, 1st baronet
Addressee:  Charles Robert Darwin
Date:  [16 Jan 1857]
Classmark:  DAR 205.9: 394
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-2039

From Charles Lyell to T. H. Huxley   17 June 1859

Summary

Extended discussion of their respective difficulties with the definition and status of species and with the extent to which the theory of transmutation may be applied.

Has rediscovered S. S. Haldeman’s 1844 paper defending the transmutation theory with great skill.

Asks for reference to Geoffroy Saint-Hilaire’s first enunciation of the progressive development and transmutation theory.

Author:  Charles Lyell, 1st baronet
Addressee:  Thomas Henry Huxley
Date:  17 June 1859
Classmark:  Imperial College of Science, Technology and Medicine Archives (Huxley 6: 20)
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-2469A

From Charles Lyell   3 October 1859

Summary

Praises the Origin: a "splendid case of close reasoning".

Objects to CD’s having ignored Lamarck and Geoffroy Saint-Hilaire.

Thinks CD should omit mentioning problem of explaining the eye at the beginning of chapter 14. Suggests rewording several passages.

Thinks want of peculiar birds in Madeira a difficulty, considering presence of them in Galapagos.

Has always felt that the case of man and his races is one and the same with animals and plants.

Author:  Charles Lyell, 1st baronet
Addressee:  Charles Robert Darwin
Date:  3 Oct 1859
Classmark:  DAR 98: B1–6
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-2501

DCP-LETT-2501F

Summary

Cancelled: Known only from reference in letter to Charles Lyell, 11 October [1859]

Author:  Charles Lyell, 1st baronet
Addressee:  Charles Robert Darwin
Date:  [4 October 1859]
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Letter no:  DCP-LETT-2501F

From Charles Lyell   22 October 1859

Summary

Wishes CD would enlarge on the doctrines of [Pyotr Simon] Pallas about the various races of dogs having come from several distinct wild species or sub-species.

Suggests organisms have a latent principle of improvement which is brought out by selection or breeding.

Author:  Charles Lyell, 1st baronet
Addressee:  Charles Robert Darwin
Date:  22 Oct 1859
Classmark:  Kinnordy MS, Charles Lyell’s notebook 242, pp. 15–24
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-2508F

From Charles Lyell   28 October 1859

Summary

Since dogs have same gestation period as the wolf it is likely that the wolf is the ancestral wild species, if it is just one species.

CD’s belief that domestic dogs are descended from several distinct aboriginal species seems to contradict views on sterility of hybrids and variation in Origin. If domestic varieties came from hybrids of wild species it will be impossible to trace ancestry. Opponents will exploit these problems.

Author:  Charles Lyell, 1st baronet
Addressee:  Charles Robert Darwin
Date:  28 Oct 1859
Classmark:  Kinnordy MS, Charles Lyell’s journal IV, pp170–3
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-2512A

From Charles Lyell   21 November 1859

Summary

Questions CD’s view in Origin that domestic dogs are not descended from a single stock. Occasional crossings of domestic stock with wild species could explain cases of reversion towards wild specific forms. CD’s views on hybridity do not then have to be contradicted in constructing an ancestral stock.

Author:  Charles Lyell, 1st baronet
Addressee:  Charles Robert Darwin
Date:  21 Nov 1859
Classmark:  Kinnordy MS, Charles Lyell’s journal IV, pp. 195–7
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-2540A

From Charles Lyell   [22 November 1859]

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Comments on pp. 201, 211, and 218 [of Origin].

Author:  Charles Lyell, 1st baronet
Addressee:  Charles Robert Darwin
Date:  [22 Nov 1859]
Classmark:  DAR 205.11: 139
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-2551

From Charles Lyell   [13–14 February 1860]

Summary

Discusses phases of climate.

Describes fossil mammals discovered by Auguste Bravard in South America.

Has had argument with Bishop of Oxford [Samuel Wilberforce] about CD’s book [Origin].

Discusses review in Annals and Magazine of Natural History. Guesses that T. V. Wollaston is the author.

Discusses evidence of shells on Madeira.

Comments on paper by Wallace ["On the zoological geography of the Malay Archipelago", J. Proc. Linn. Soc. Lond. (Zool.) 4 (1860): 172–84].

Author:  Charles Lyell, 1st baronet
Addressee:  Charles Robert Darwin
Date:  [13–14 Feb 1860]
Classmark:  DAR 205.3: 283, DAR 205.9: 395
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-2694

From Charles Lyell   2 May 1860

Summary

It is small comfort to be told you will be succeeded in lineal descent by angels when Lamarck and Darwin have made your ancestors without souls. However, can the progressive system not be seen as most consonant with a higher destiny if all spiritual natures advance? The link of common descent to inferior beings like idiots should be obvious. Infants die before they become responsible. Pope’s An essay on Man [1733] shows how man was "In doubt to deem himself a God or Beast", without speculation on his genealogy.

Author:  Charles Lyell, 1st baronet
Addressee:  Charles Robert Darwin
Date:  2 May 1860
Classmark:  Kinnordy MS, Charles Lyell’s journal V, pp. 176–9
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-2779A

From Charles Lyell   7 May 1860

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Saw Salter’s Spirifer specimens; a very good proof of indefinite modifiability.

Beginning to think gap between Cambrian and Lower Silurian enormous.

Édouard Lartet to give paper before Geological Society ["On coexistence of man with certain extinct quadrupeds", Q. J. Geol. Soc. Lond. 16 (1859–60): 471–5].

Author:  Charles Lyell, 1st baronet
Addressee:  Charles Robert Darwin
Date:  7 May 1860
Classmark:  DAR 205.9: 396
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-2787

From Charles Lyell   15 June 1860

Summary

Rejects CD’s comparison of natural selection with the architect of a building. The architect who plans and oversees construction should not be confused in his function with the wisest breeder. That would be to deify natural selection.

Author:  Charles Lyell, 1st baronet
Addressee:  Charles Robert Darwin
Date:  15 June 1860
Classmark:  Kinnordy MS, Charles Lyell’s journal VI, pp. 108–9
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-2832A

From Charles Lyell   19 June 1860

Summary

Sees Huxley’s deification of matter and force as a reaction to the way Paley likened the "Unknown Cause" to the mind of man so that new causes could be introduced. If you wish to retain free will which is inconsistent with constant law, Paley’s position is better. Free will is a recently introduced cause on our planet. It cannot be fully attributed to secondary causes.

What CD says about the variation in gestation of the hound is remarkable.

The astonishing fertile rabbit–hare hybrids encourage belief in Pallas’s theory of the multiple origin of dogs.

Does the regularity of gestation in man indicate a common stock?

Hooker’s observation of absence of forms peculiar to extra-Arctic Greenland indicates that the time since the beginning of the glacial period is brief in geological terms.

Author:  Charles Lyell, 1st baronet
Addressee:  Charles Robert Darwin
Date:  19 June 1860
Classmark:  Kinnordy MS, Charles Lyell’s journal VI, pp. 117–23
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-2837A

From Charles Lyell   28 August 1860

Summary

Objections to Origin which Owen and Wilberforce could have used. Why have incipient mammalian forms not arisen from lower vertebrates on islands separated since Miocene period? Knows CD would not derive Eocene Mammalia from higher reptiles, but would bats not be modified into other mammalian forms on an ancient island? This is not the case in New Zealand. Why have island seals not become terrestrial? Assumes rate of change is greatest in mammals. Difficulties are small compared with ability to explain absence of Mammalia in pre-Pliocene islands. Asks about descent of Amblyrhynchus. Believes objections apply equally well to independent creation of animal types, but not if the First Cause is allowed completely free agency.

Author:  Charles Lyell, 1st baronet
Addressee:  Charles Robert Darwin
Date:  28 Aug 1860
Classmark:  Kinnordy MS, Charles Lyell’s journal IV, pp. 164–71
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-2900A

From Charles Lyell   [before 20 November 1860]

Summary

Discusses the possibility of a land-bridge connecting Biscay with Ireland and the consequent occurrence in southern Ireland of Asturian plants which are absent from England.

Asks if Hooker or anyone has criticised Edward Forbes’ botanical migration of five floras in the British Isles ["On the connexion between the distribution of existing fauna and flora of the British Isles, and the geological changes which have affected their area", Mem. Geol. Surv. G. B. 1 (1846): 336–432].

Author:  Charles Lyell, 1st baronet
Addressee:  Charles Robert Darwin
Date:  [before 20 Nov 1860]
Classmark:  DAR 170.2: 80
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-2902
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