To Charles Lyell 24 September 1873
Down, | Beckenham, Kent.
Sep. 24. 1873
My dear Lyell
I was very glad to get your note, as only a few days ago I was much wishing to hear where & how you were.1 I received the apples only today, as they were directed to Beckenham instead of to Orpington Station; & I have been very glad carefully to compare them.2
The seedlings from the same parent are wonderfully alike in the fruit & apparently in their now withered leaves. I forget what Hooker says; but I have long been well aware that reversions to the crab-state are exceptional & far from close.3 Indeed the wild crabs themselves are very perplexing & differ much. If you care to see what I have said very briefly on the subject, you will find a passage in my Var. under Dom. Vol. 2. p. 350 & a line or 2 in Vol 1. p 31—4 I do not believe that inheritance is so general with apple trees, as Mr Wood thinks. Many have tried, but no one has raised a new Ribstone or Golden Pippin; tho’ one of Andrew Knight’s seedlings makes an approach to the latter.5 The most surprising statement in Mr Wood’s letter seems to me to be about the sterility of his seedlings, as I suppose they must now be several years old.6 It is still more remarkable that his parent trees were not intercrossed, as probably many kinds were in flower at the same time. As I can hardly doubt that bees must carry pollen from tree to tree (which cd be easily proved by cutting off the stamens of several flowers before they opened, & afterwards examining the stigmas) it really looks as if the pollen of the above named vars. was prepotent over that of other vars; & if so they certainly have the character of species.7 It wd be a grand experiment to fertilize some flowers of the Hawthornden with pollen from a distinct plant or best a seedling of the same var. & with pollen of some other & very different var., & see the character of the seedlings thus produced; but I am too old for such a work.
I have been rather bad of late, & am now under very strict orders by Dr A. Clark;8 but I very much hope that later in the autumn, if a little change wd do you any good, that you will pay us a visit together with Miss Lyell. Her name vividly recalls many delightful evenings in Hart St.9
Believe me, my dear Lyell | Your old & affectionate pupil | Ch. Darwin
Footnotes
Bibliography
Correspondence: The correspondence of Charles Darwin. Edited by Frederick Burkhardt et al. 29 vols to date. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. 1985–.
Cross and self fertilisation: The effects of cross and self fertilisation in the vegetable kingdom. By Charles Darwin. London: John Murray. 1876.
Hooker, Joseph Dalton. 1859. On the flora of Australia, its origin, affinities, and distribution; being an introductory essay to the flora of Tasmania. London: Lovell Reeve.
Knight, Thomas Andrew. 1809. A short account of a new apple, called the Downton Pippin. [Read 7 March 1809.] Transactions of the Horticultural Society of London 1 (1805–12): 145–6.
Lyell, Charles. 1872. Principles of geology or the modern changes of the earth and its inhabitants considered as illustrative of geology. 11th edition. 2 vols. London: John Murray.
Variation: The variation of animals and plants under domestication. By Charles Darwin. 2 vols. London: John Murray. 1868.
Summary
Discusses apple specimens received from CL; reversion to crab state. Cites passage on subject in Variation.
Comments on letter from Mr Wood on inheritance in fruit-trees.
Would like to cross flowers of "Hawthornden" with many distinct varieties.
Letter details
- Letter no.
- DCP-LETT-9065
- From
- Charles Robert Darwin
- To
- Charles Lyell, 1st baronet
- Sent from
- Down
- Source of text
- American Philosophical Society (Mss.B.D25.432)
- Physical description
- LS(A) 4pp
Please cite as
Darwin Correspondence Project, “Letter no. 9065,” accessed on 30 March 2023, https://www.darwinproject.ac.uk/letter/?docId=letters/DCP-LETT-9065.xml
Also published in The Correspondence of Charles Darwin, vol. 21