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To Fritz Müller   8 September [1869]1

Down. | Beckenham | Kent. S.E.

Sept. 8

My dear Sir

I write now to ask you to observe the Papilio or Peridromia feronia, which I believe inhabits St. Catharina— see my Journal of Travels p. 33— I want to know whether both sexes equally make the ticking noise.— I shd. think the structure at base of wings wd. be worth your investigation.—2

I received your letter of June 15th & am glad to hear the confirmation of the dimorphic case of Faramea.—3

The plants of Eschotzia from your seed (N.B. Asa Gray has been here, & says your plant & mine are both strictly E. Californica)4 have, when artificially & spontaneously self-fertilised, produced pods! but they are very small (& few in number) compared with the crossed pods.5 They are not yet ripe, so I know nothing about seed.— I shall be very curious to hear how my plants behave with you.—6

I sent your account of Begonia to Hooker, who was much struck by it.7

I have cases with Reseda odorata as capricious in respect to fertilisation as yours of Cypella(?).—8

Claparède has published what appears a splendid memoir on the Acarids; & he applies an argument like yours about the breathing organ of Crustaceans in my favour.—9

I will send in a few days a copy of a small paper on Orchids.10

In Haste pray believe me | Yours ever sincerely | Ch Darwin


The year is established by the relationship between this letter and the letter from Fritz Müller, 15 June 1869.
CD had remarked on the clicking noise of Papilio feronia (now Hamadryas feronia, the blue cracker; Peridromia feronia is a synonym) in Journal of researches, p. 38. He had inserted a note in the second edition on a drum-like structure at the base of the forewings of the insect (Journal of researches 2d ed., p. 133). For more on sound production in this species, see Yack et al. 2000. Müller had received a copy of the second edition of Journal of researches from CD in 1866 (see Correspondence vol. 14, letter from Fritz Müller, 13 February 1866).
According to Emma Darwin’s diary (DAR 242), Asa Gray had visited CD on 28 August 1869. Eschscholzia californica is the California poppy. CD had worried that the seeds he obtained from a commercial grower were of a different species of Eschscholzia (see letter to Fritz Müller, 14 March 1869 and n. 11).
CD had sent seeds of Eschscholzia californica after his letter to Fritz Müller of 14 March 1869.
On Reseda odorata, see the letter to Fritz Müller, 18 July [1869] and n. 5. On Cypella, see the letter from Fritz Müller, 15 June 1869 and n. 8.
CD’s annotated copy of Edouard Claparède’s ‘Studien an Acariden’ (Claparède 1868) is in the Darwin Pamphlet Collection–CUL. In discussing the parasitic lifestyle of different groups of acarids, Claparède referred to Müller’s account of the breathing apparatus in different families of crabs (see Claparède 1868, pp. 535–7; see also F. Müller 1864a, pp. 24–6, and Dallas trans. 1869, pp. 35–7). Claparède argued that differences in the grasping organs of the parasitic acarids he studied demonstrated that the adaptation for a parasitic lifestyle had developed independently and thus there was no single ancestor for all parasitic forms. In modern taxonomy, Acari is now a subclass of the class Arachnida.


Claparède, Edouard. 1868. Studien an Acariden. Zeitschrift für wissenschaftliche Zoologie 18: 445–546.

Correspondence: The correspondence of Charles Darwin. Edited by Frederick Burkhardt et al. 27 vols to date. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. 1985–.

‘Fertilization of orchids’: Notes on the fertilization of orchids. By Charles Darwin. Annals and Magazine of Natural History 4th ser. 4 (1869): 141–59. [Collected papers 2: 138–56.]

Journal of researches 2d ed.: Journal of researches into the natural history and geology of the countries visited during the voyage of HMS Beagle round the world, under the command of Capt. FitzRoy RN. 2d edition, corrected, with additions. By Charles Darwin. London: John Murray. 1845.

Journal of researches: Journal of researches into the geology and natural history of the various countries visited by HMS Beagle, under the command of Captain FitzRoy, RN, from 1832 to 1836. By Charles Darwin. London: Henry Colburn. 1839.


Wants observations on a Papilio to see whether ticking noise is confined to one sex.

Experiments on self-sterility.

Will send copy of his orchid paper ["Fertilisation of orchids", Collected papers 2: 138–56].

Eschscholzia when self-fertilised, produced pods.

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Charles Robert Darwin
Johann Friedrich Theodor (Fritz) Müller
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The British Library (Loan MS 10 no 30)
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Darwin Correspondence Project, “Letter no. 6881,” accessed on 21 October 2021,

Also published in The Correspondence of Charles Darwin, vol. 17