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From Hermann Müller   10 March 1868


10 March 1868.

My dear Sir!

Only this moment I have received a letter from W. Engelmann of Leipzig, who excuses himself by the sudden death of his son-in-law for having answered so late.1 He writes to me: “Very gladly I am ready to cede you the 67 “Clichés” of the woodcuts belonging to the work of your brother—at the price of 22 thalers.2 The woodcuts themselves I do not give out of my hand. The profits which could result from the English translation of this work, I will not take part of. The German original has not been successful, as I have lost thereby 60–70 thalers”.

I am very sorrow to have not obtained from Engelmann, as I wished, the use of the woodcuts for nothing, but after this letter from him further negotiations with him would certainly be of no result.

If you wish to obtain at this price the clichés of the woodcuts belonging to my brothers work,3 you will write it to me and I shall procure you them as promptly as possible.

In expecting your orders in this regard I remain with the greatest respect | yours very faithfully | H Müller.


See letter to Hermann Müller, 23 February [1868], and letter from Hermann Müller, [after 23 February 1868]. Müller refers to Wilhelm Engelmann, whose firm had published Fritz Müller’s Für Darwin (F. Müller 1864). Engelmann’s son-in-law has not been identified.
The thaler (taler) was a silver coin, the common currency unit of most northern German states, including Saxony, where Leipzig was. Twenty-two thalers were roughly equal to £3 6s. (see letter from Theodor Engelmann, 25 April 1868).
F. Müller 1864 (see n. 1, above).


Has heard from W. Engelmann of Leipzig; he is willing to let CD have the woodcuts to Fritz Müller’s work [Für Darwin (1864)] for 22 thalers.

Letter details

Letter no.
Heinrich Ludwig Hermann (Hermann) Müller
Charles Robert Darwin
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DAR 171: 293
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Please cite as

Darwin Correspondence Project, “Letter no. 6001,” accessed on 26 November 2020,

Also published in The Correspondence of Charles Darwin, vol. 16