To John Murray 31 March [1865]1
Down. | Bromley. | Kent. S.E.
March 31st
My dear Sir
After much delay from illness, I have at last made considerable progress in a Book with some such Title as enclosed, & which I hope will go to press this early autumn.2 Hence it is time to think of the woodcuts. I do not want you to pledge yourself even indirectly to publish, until you see M.S.; but will you aid me about the cuts with advice, I being responsible for all outlay.—
1st. I want 29 cuts of bones (I am sorry so many are unattractive), chiefly skulls & 3 & 4 little bones on same cut.3 Now I must have artist here to explain what is to be done; & I shd. much prefer Mr. G. B. Sowerby, as I am accustomed to him.4 The specimens used have to be drawn right on the wood. But what can be done about cost. How can any agreement be made before drawings are made?—
2d. I want 7 cuts of size of Page of Origin, well executed of chief races of Pigeons (& perhaps 3 Heads of Cocks).5 Now Mr. Wells has lately drawn for the Field some of the pigeons excellently:6 he charges 30s for each drawing (as I hear from sub-editor of Field) & the cutting costs a little more for each.7 But my cuts would be a little smaller. Should I ask him to send an estimate for drawings & cutting to you?? or trust to my friend the Sub-Editor.
3d. I have 5 drawings to be exactly copied,8 so that this will be simple job—
4th I shall want 4 or 5 or 6 cuts of plants, & seeds,9 which Mr Fitch of Kew10 could alone do well: & I shd. think he might be trusted not to overcharge.—
Altogether I shd. wish for very nearly 50 cuts; but if you think this too much for Book (I guess about size of Origin) please advise me; for I could reduce the number to about 35.—11
Lastly kindly inform me whether you think size of Origin good size.—
Please remember that I do not at all wish you to pledge yourself to publish.—
My dear Sir | Yours very sincerely | Ch. Darwin
How about Orchis Book?12 I suppose Origin has ceased selling. I shd be very sorry to have now labour of another Edition, but I suppose that will never be wanted.13 I heard yesterday a new French Edit. is wanted14 & this will give me some trouble.—
Of present book I have 7 chapters ready for press & all others very forward, except the last & concluding one.15 Sir C. Lyell read the 1st. Chapt. in M.S. on Dogs, 3 or 4 years ago, & thought favourably, & as it appeared to me certainly too favourably of it.—16
P.S. In the “Dovecote & Aviary by Rev. E. S. Dixon” published by you, there are 2 cuts of wild & Dovecote pigeon, which are well done, & though not necessary, would be very useful for my book, would you have kindness to let me use them, if in your possession?—17
Footnotes
Bibliography
Correspondence: The correspondence of Charles Darwin. Edited by Frederick Burkhardt et al. 29 vols to date. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. 1985–.
Desmond, Ray. 1995. Kew: the history of the Royal Botanic Gardens. London: Harvill Press with the Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew.
‘Dimorphic condition in Primula’: On the two forms, or dimorphic condition, in the species of Primula, and on their remarkable sexual relations. By Charles Darwin. [Read 21 November 1861.] Journal of the Proceedings of the Linnean Society (Botany) 6 (1862): 77–96. [Collected papers 2: 45–63.]
Dixon, Edmund Saul. 1851. The dovecote and the aviary: being sketches of the natural history of pigeons and other domestic birds in a captive state, with hints for their management. London: John Murray.
Fossil Cirripedia (1854): A monograph of the fossil Balanidæ and Verrucidæ of Great Britain. By Charles Darwin. London: Palaeontographical Society. 1854.
Freeman, Richard Broke. 1977. The works of Charles Darwin: an annotated bibliographical handlist. 2d edition. Folkestone, Kent: William Dawson & Sons. Hamden, Conn.: Archon Books, Shoe String Press.
Living Cirripedia (1851): A monograph of the sub-class Cirripedia, with figures of all the species. The Lepadidæ; or, pedunculated cirripedes. By Charles Darwin. London: Ray Society. 1851.
Living Cirripedia (1854): A monograph of the sub-class Cirripedia, with figures of all the species. The Balanidæ (or sessile cirripedes); the Verrucidæ, etc. By Charles Darwin. London: Ray Society. 1854.
Marginalia: Charles Darwin’s marginalia. Edited by Mario A. Di Gregorio with the assistance of Nicholas W. Gill. Vol. 1. New York and London: Garland Publishing. 1990.
Orchids: On the various contrivances by which British and foreign orchids are fertilised by insects, and on the good effects of intercrossing. By Charles Darwin. London: John Murray. 1862.
Origin: On the origin of species by means of natural selection, or the preservation of favoured races in the struggle for life. By Charles Darwin. London: John Murray. 1859.
South America: Geological observations on South America. Being the third part of the geology of the voyage of the Beagle, under the command of Capt. FitzRoy RN, during the years 1832 to 1836. By Charles Darwin. London: Smith, Elder & Co. 1846.
Variation: The variation of animals and plants under domestication. By Charles Darwin. 2 vols. London: John Murray. 1868.
Summary
Has made progress [on Variation]. Hopes it will go to press in the autumn. Lists his needs for cuts to be made – altogether 50.
Supposes Origin has ceased selling. Would be sorry to have labour of another edition. A new French edition is wanted.
Letter details
- Letter no.
- DCP-LETT-4801
- From
- Charles Robert Darwin
- To
- John Murray
- Sent from
- Down
- Source of text
- National Library of Scotland (John Murray Archive) (Ms.42152 ff. 131–135)
- Physical description
- ALS 9pp
Please cite as
Darwin Correspondence Project, “Letter no. 4801,” accessed on 26 September 2022, https://www.darwinproject.ac.uk/letter/?docId=letters/DCP-LETT-4801.xml
Also published in The Correspondence of Charles Darwin, vol. 13