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To John Lubbock   14 July [1861]1

2. Hesketh Crescent | Torquay

July 14th.

My dear Lubbock

Pray give my sincere thanks to Sir John Lubbock for his note, & yourself accept my cordial thanks.2 Your notes have been of greatest possible assistance to me. I felt so entirely ignorant that I did not know whether my solicitor was quite unreasonable.— I have now written to him, telling him that we require merely fair terms, to be as civil as possible, to push no point to an unreasonable extent, & finally that we are anxious to join. I hope Mr. Atherley will modify some of the points. What you seem to think struck me that there was too much provision for the distant future; as Mr Atherleys son is only 8 years old; I shd. have thought (& have so told my solicitor) that all such points might have been left open.—

I hope most deeply that the negotiation will not fall through: I must be guided to a large extent by my solicitor but I have urged him not to be too particular.

Anyhow I am sure you have done everything, far more than I could have expected, to help us.— I should hope that we shall have no need to trouble Sir John or you again; but if perplexed, I will accept your kind offer.—

Yours very gratefully | Charles Darwin


The endorsement is confirmed by CD’s stay in Torquay (see ‘Journal’; Appendix II).
The letter from John William Lubbock has not been found. Negotiations connected with the arrangements for William Erasmus Darwin’s banking partnership, had run into difficulty over the terms to be included in the contract. See letter to John Lubbock, 10 July [1861].


Thanks JL and his father for advice regarding Southampton bank. Has written to Atherley for fair terms.

Letter details

Letter no.
Charles Robert Darwin
John Lubbock, 4th baronet and 1st Baron Avebury
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Source of text
DAR 263: 44 (EH 88206488)
Physical description
ALS 4pp

Please cite as

Darwin Correspondence Project, “Letter no. 3209,” accessed on 5 October 2022,

Also published in The Correspondence of Charles Darwin, vol. 9