To Charles Lyell 27 [December 1859]
Down Bromley Kent
27th
My dear Lyell
Owen wrote to me to ask for reference to Clift.1 As my own notes for late chapts. are all in chaos, I bethought me, who was the most trustworthy man of all others to look for references, & I answered myself, “of course Lyell”. In Edit of 1833 Vol. 2. Vol 3. p. 144, you will find reference to Clift in Ed. New. Phil. Journ. no XX p. 394.—2 You will also find that you were greatly struck with the fact itself, which I had quite forgotten. I copied passage & sent it to Owen.—3 Why I gave in some detail references to my own work4 is that Owen (not the first ocasion with respect to myself & others) quietly ignores my having ever generalised on the subject & makes great fuss on more than one occasion at having discovered the law of succession.5 In fact this law with the Galapagos Distribution first turned my mind on origin of species.—6 My own references, are diag Large 8vo Edit 1839 Murrays Edit. 1845.—
p. 210 … … . p 173 On Succession
p. 153 … … . p. 131,132 On splitting up of old
Geograph. Provincesramme (Long before Owen published I had in M.S. worked out the succession of types in Old World.—) as I remember telling Sedgwick, who of course disbelieved it.)
Since receiving your last letter on Hooker, I have read his Introduction as far as p xxiv where Australian Flora begins; & this latter part I liked most in the Proofs.— It is a magnificent Essay.— I doubt slightly about some assertions, or rather shd have liked more facts, as, for instance, in regard to species varying most on confines of their range.— Naturally I doubt a little whether his remarks about “divergence”, & about domestic races being produced under nature, without selection.7 It would take much to persuade me that a Pouter Pigeon or Carrier &c could have been produced by mere laws of variation without long-continued selection; though each little enlargement of crop & beak are due to variation.
I demur greatly to his comparison of products of sinking & rising islands: in Indian Ocean he compares exclusively rising volcanic & sinking coral-isld. 8 The latter have most peculiar soil, & are excessively small in area & are tenanted by very few species: moreover such low coral-islands have probably been often during their subsidence utterly submerged & restocked by plants from other lands. In Pacific Ocean the floras of all best cases are unknown: the comparison ought to have been exclusively between rising & fringed Volcanic isld. & sinking & encircled Volcanic isld.—
I have read Naudin, & Hooker agrees that he does not even touch on my views.—9
I doubt whether Hooker will succeed (anyhow I tried & failed) in keeping parts of Tropics hot, whilst other parts
Footnotes
Bibliography
Clift, William. 1831. Report by Mr Clift, of the College of Surgeons, London, in regard to the fossil bones found in the caves and bone-breccia of New Holland. Edinburgh New Philosophical Journal 10: 394–5.
Correspondence: The correspondence of Charles Darwin. Edited by Frederick Burkhardt et al. 29 vols to date. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. 1985–.
Lyell, Charles. 1830–3. Principles of geology, being an attempt to explain the former changes of the earth’s surface, by reference to causes now in operation. 3 vols. London: John Murray.
Naudin, Charles Victor. 1852. Considérations philosophiques sur l’espèce et la variété. Revue Horticole 4th ser. 1: 102–9.
Origin: On the origin of species by means of natural selection, or the preservation of favoured races in the struggle for life. By Charles Darwin. London: John Murray. 1859.
Summary
Mentions William Clift ["Report in regard to the fossil bones found in New Holland", Edinburgh New Philos. J. 10 (1830–1): 394–6].
Discusses relations between fossil and living types.
Discusses Hooker’s introductory essay [in Flora Tasmaniae]. Criticises Hooker’s views on flora of rising and sinking islands.
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- Letter no.
- DCP-LETT-2608
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- Charles Robert Darwin
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- Charles Lyell, 1st baronet
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Darwin Correspondence Project, “Letter no. 2608,” accessed on 26 September 2022, https://www.darwinproject.ac.uk/letter/?docId=letters/DCP-LETT-2608.xml
Also published in The Correspondence of Charles Darwin, vol. 7