To T. H. Huxley 27 November [1859]1
Ilkley Wells House— Otley Yorkshire
Nov. 27th
My dear Huxley.
Gä rtner grand— Kölreuter grand, but papers scattered through many volumes & very lengthy: I had to make abstract of whole.—2 Herbert volume on Amaryllidaceæ very good & two excellent paper in Hort. Journal.—3 For animals no resume to be trusted at all: facts have to be collected from all original sources.— I fear my M.S for bigger book (twice or thrice as long as in present book) with all references, would I fear be illegible, but it would save you infinite labour: of course I would gladly lend it; but I have no copy so care would have to be taken of it. But my accursed handwriting would be fatal I fear.—
About Breeding I know of no one Book.— I did not think well of Lowe, but I can name none better.4 Youatt I look at as far better & more practical authority; but then his views & facts are scattered through 3 or 4 thick volumes.5 I have picked up most by reading really numberless special treatises & all Agricultural & Horticultural Journals; but it is work of long years.6 The difficulty is to know what to trust. No one or two statements are worth a farthing,—the facts are so complicated. I hope & think I have been really cautious in what I state on this subject, though all that I have given, as yet, is far too briefly.—
I have found it very important associating with fanciers & breeders.— For instance I sat one evening in a gin-palace in the Borough amongst a set of Pigeon-fanciers,—when it was hinted that Mr Bult had crossed his Powters with Runts to gain size;7 & if you had seen the solemn, the mysterious & awful shakes of the head which all the fanciers gave at this scandalous proceeding, you would have recognised how little crossing has had to do with improving breeds, & how dangerous for endless generations the process was.— All this was brought home far more vividly than by pages of mere statements &c— But I am scribbling foolishly. I really do not know how to advise about getting up facts on breeding & improving breeds— Go to shows is one way— Read all treatise on any one domestic animal & believe nothing without largely confirmed.— For your lecture I can give you a few amusing anecdotes & sentences, if you want to make audience laugh.—
I thank you particularly for telling me what naturalists think. If we can once make a compact set of believers we shall in time conquer. I am eminently glad Ramsay is on our side—for he is, in my opinion, first-rate geologist.—8 I sent him copy, I hope he got it— I shall be very curious to hear whether any effect has been produced on Prestwick—9 I sent him copy, not as friend, but owing to a sentence or two in some paper, which made me suspect he was doubting.—
Revd C. Kingsley has a mind to come round.10 Quatrefages write that he goes some long way with me: says he exhibited diagram like mine—11
With most hearty thanks | Your very tired | C. Darwin
Footnotes
Bibliography
Correspondence: The correspondence of Charles Darwin. Edited by Frederick Burkhardt et al. 29 vols to date. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. 1985–.
Gärtner, Karl Friedrich von. 1844. Versuche und Beobachtungen über die Befruchtungsorgane der vollkommeneren Gewächse und über die natürliche und künstliche Befruchtung durch den eigenen Pollen. Pt 1 of Beiträge zur Kenntniss der Befruchtung der vollkommeneren Gewächse. Stuttgart: E. Schweizerbart.
Herbert, William. 1837. Amaryllidaceæ; preceded by an attempt to arrange the monocotyledonous orders, and followed by a treatise on cross-bred vegetables, and supplement. London: James Ridgway & Sons.
Kölreuter, Joseph Gottlieb. 1761–6. Vorläufige Nachricht von einigen das Geschlecht der Pflanzen betreffenden Versuchen und Beobachtungen. Leipzig: Gleditschischen Handlung.
Low, David. 1845. On the domesticated animals of the British Islands: comprehending the natural and economical history of species and varieties; the description of the properties of external form; and observations on the principles and practice of breeding. London: Longman, Brown, Green & Longmans.
Natural selection: Charles Darwin’s Natural selection: being the second part of his big species book written from 1856 to 1858. Edited by R. C. Stauffer. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. 1975.
Origin: On the origin of species by means of natural selection, or the preservation of favoured races in the struggle for life. By Charles Darwin. London: John Murray. 1859.
Secord, James Andrew. 1981. Nature’s fancy: Charles Darwin and the breeding of pigeons. Isis 72: 162–86.
Summary
Sends references for materials useful for THH’s lecture.
Breeding and crossing. Pigeon fanciers.
Responses to Origin: A. C. Ramsay, Charles Kingsley, Quatrefages de Bréau.
Letter details
- Letter no.
- DCP-LETT-2558
- From
- Charles Robert Darwin
- To
- Thomas Henry Huxley
- Sent from
- Ilkley
- Source of text
- Imperial College of Science, Technology, and Medicine Archives (Huxley 5: 76)
- Physical description
- ALS 4pp
Please cite as
Darwin Correspondence Project, “Letter no. 2558,” accessed on 13 September 2023, https://www.darwinproject.ac.uk/letter/?docId=letters/DCP-LETT-2558.xml
Also published in The Correspondence of Charles Darwin, vol. 7