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From F. B. Goodacre   2 September 1878

Wilby Rectory | Attlebro | Norfolk

Sept. 2/78

Dear Sir,

I have forwarded the geese this morning addressed according to your instructions1 & trust they may reach you in safety, though they have bred together I am not yet convinced that hybrids will breed inter se, for I doubt whether they be really anything more than mongrels, in other words whether the Chinese & Common goose be only Eastern & Western forms of the self same species, similar to the Eastern & Western types of Cattle & pigs; this is an idea of my own I have never seen even hinted at in books, & would probably be regarded by most naturalists, at present, as a wild fancy, but should it so happen to be the true explanation why these reputed hybrids will breed inter se, we seem to have a clue given to conflicting statements of authors about the China Goose & also of certain modifications in the common bird that have hitherto been regarded correlative variations:—2

When first hatched the beaks & legs of the birds I have sent you were black, but then parts were colored in two goslings of the same brood that had much white in their plumage. I purpose asking Dr. Meadows3 to cross the offspring of the birds I send with some similar 1st. cousins he has reared, & myself intend keeping a pair of 34 bred birds (i.e. 34 Chinese & 34 Common) which also are 1st. cousins to one another, we can only manage one experiment each at a time   I hope I may get someone else to join in such like experiments for they appear highly desirable to be made, they may by their results give us some information concerning the identity of species or otherwise of the Chinese & Common Goose, all books I have seen treat them as distinct species but it may be an error for all that: I have had many 12 bred birds between Common & Musk Duck4 & always found them most infertile.

Should you have any goslings not pied with white I should much like to know the color of their beaks & legs when first hatched; wishing you success | Believe me | yrs truly | F B Goodacre

CD annotations

Top of letter: ‘Hybrid Geese | Look at Beaks & legs of Goslings’ red crayon

Footnotes

CD had asked for two geese, crosses between the Chinese goose (Anser cygnoides) and the common goose (A. anser), so that he could test their fertility; see letter to F. B. Goodacre, 23 August [1878].
Goodacre published a short paper reiterating his belief that the Chinese and the common goose were varieties of the same species in the Proceedings of the Zoological Society of London (Goodacre 1879). The ‘correlative variations’ were white feathers at the base of the bill, and a swelled and flattened trachea (Goodacre 1879, p. 711).
The musk or muscovy duck is Cairina moschata.

Bibliography

Goodacre, Francis Burges. 1879. On the question of the identity of species of the common domestic and the Chinese goose. [Read 18 November 1879.] Proceedings of the Zoological Society of London (1879): 710–12.

Summary

Sends geese to CD.

Crossbreeding of Chinese and common geese; believes they may be same species.

Letter details

Letter no.
DCP-LETT-11685
From
Francis Burges Goodacre
To
Charles Robert Darwin
Sent from
Attleborough, Norfolk
Source of text
DAR 165: 65
Physical description
ALS 4pp †

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Darwin Correspondence Project, “Letter no. 11685,” accessed on 19 April 2024, https://www.darwinproject.ac.uk/letter/?docId=letters/DCP-LETT-11685.xml

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