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From John Murray   1 July 1870

Summary

Financial adjustments for last edition of Origin

and a tentative title for the new work: "Descent of man and selection according to sex". [Later changed to "in relation to sex".]

Author:  John Murray
Addressee:  Charles Robert Darwin
Date:  1 July 1870
Classmark:  DAR 171: 376
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-7259

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  • … Murray, John (b) Darwin, C. R. …
  • … for £60"9"4 enclosed. Chas. Darwin Esq | &c &c &c Dear Sir M r Cooke forgot to point to …

From John Murray   16 November [1870]

Summary

JM reports 1900 [advance] copies of Descent were taken at his annual sale,

and 340 copies of Origin [5th ed.] were sold.

Sheets for Dutch publisher will be sent to CD immediately. JM cautions against possibility that Dutch edition will anticipate the English.

Author:  John Murray
Addressee:  Charles Robert Darwin
Date:  16 Nov [1870]
Classmark:  DAR 171: 381
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-7372

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  • … Murray, John (b) Darwin, C. R. …
  • r . 16 My Dear Sir I think you will not be disappointed when I tell you that 1900 copies were taken of your new Book at my sale on Friday also 340 of Origin of Species. Clowes will send you immediatel the fair sheets to within 2 of the end. It is prudent to keep back a few sheets in both volumes least any check occurring here—the foreigner sh d supplant you at home or anticipate you. Rotterdam attached to Kramers name will be sufficient address I am Dear Sir | yours very faithfully | John Murray Chas Darwin Esq | &c & …

To John Murray   5 [August 1870]

Summary

MS of Descent, except last chapter, is ready to send to printer. Hopes the printer will be able to keep him steadily at work correcting proof. "It drives me mad to change from job to job."

Author:  Charles Robert Darwin
Addressee:  John Murray
Date:  5 [Aug 1870]
Classmark:  National Library of Scotland (John Murray Archive) (Ms.42152 ff. 209–10)
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-7265

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From John Murray   6 August [1870]

Summary

JM informs CD that he will have Clowes give him written assurance that the printing [of Descent] will proceed without interruption.

The [Franco-Prussian] War is a sad damper on international science and his publishing plans.

Author:  John Murray
Addressee:  Charles Robert Darwin
Date:  6 Aug [1870]
Classmark:  DAR 171: 377
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-7295

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To John Murray   29 September [1870]

Summary

CD did not promise Appleton stereotypes of text [of Descent]; only of cuts.

Wishes to know which passage JM thought "coarse". Remembers only a quotation from John Hunter on courtship of female being required "to give her desires" [Descent 1: 273]. He fancied a quotation rendered the sentence less coarse.

Author:  Charles Robert Darwin
Addressee:  John Murray
Date:  29 Sept [1870]
Classmark:  National Library of Scotland (John Murray Archive) (Ms. 42152 ff. 212–13)
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-7331

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To John Murray   9 April [1870]

Summary

Finds Academy contains valuable matter for his work.

Descent progresses slowly – will not be ready for press for several months.

Author:  Charles Robert Darwin
Addressee:  John Murray
Date:  9 Apr [1870]
Classmark:  National Library of Scotland (John Murray Archive) (Ms. 42152 ff. 207–208)
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-7162

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From John Murray   10 June [1870]

Summary

Asks CD whether he is far enough along with his new work [Descent] to allow him to announce it as a forthcoming publication in his next quarterly list.

Author:  John Murray
Addressee:  Charles Robert Darwin
Date:  10 June [1870]
Classmark:  DAR 171: 375
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-7226

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To John Murray   4 September [1870]

Summary

Variation is a much better looking volume than Origin due to quality of paper and binding. Hopes JM will attend to this point in Descent. Printers have sent "splendid lot" of proofs.

Author:  Charles Robert Darwin
Addressee:  John Murray
Date:  4 Sept [1870]
Classmark:  National Library of Scotland (John Murray Archive) (Ms.42152 f. 211)
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-7316

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To John Murray   15 November [1870]

Summary

Would like to hear results of JM’s November booksale.

Author:  Charles Robert Darwin
Addressee:  John Murray
Date:  15 Nov [1870]
Classmark:  National Library of Scotland (John Murray Archive) (Ms.42152 f. 43)
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-7371

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To John Murray   17 November [1870]

Summary

Pleased at [advance] sale [of Descent]. Suggests 3000 copies be printed. Corrections are frightful and, CD fears, will not be done until end of year.

Author:  Charles Robert Darwin
Addressee:  John Murray
Date:  17 Nov [1870]
Classmark:  National Library of Scotland (John Murray Archive) (Ms.42152 f. 242)
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-7374

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From John Murray   10 October [1870]

Summary

Cannot find the [indelicate] passage he referred to in last letter.

Various publication arrangements.

Author:  John Murray
Addressee:  Charles Robert Darwin
Date:  10 Oct [1870]
Classmark:  DAR 171: 379
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-7339

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To John Murray   11 October [1870]

Summary

Glad to hear Dallas will do index of Descent, but he needs keeping up to the mark. Agrees to a Dutch edition.

Author:  Charles Robert Darwin
Addressee:  John Murray
Date:  11 Oct [1870]
Classmark:  National Library of Scotland (John Murray archive) (Ms.42152 ff. 41–2)
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-7341

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From John Murray   28 September [1870]

Summary

Various arrangements concerning the publication of Descent. "It will cause men to prick up [their] ears – & to elevate their eyebrows." JM thinks he will venture to print 2500 copies.

Suggests CD tone down as possibly indelicate a passage on proportion of advances made by the two sexes in animals.

Author:  John Murray
Addressee:  Charles Robert Darwin
Date:  28 Sept [1870]
Classmark:  DAR 171: 378
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-7329

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To John Murray   22 October [1870]

Summary

He agrees with his family that binding of Variation looks much better than Origin.

Asks JM to report the number of copies he has printed of Naturalist’s Voyage [Journal of researches].

Author:  Charles Robert Darwin
Addressee:  John Murray
Date:  22 Oct [1870]
Classmark:  National Library of Scotland (John Murray Archive) (Ms.42152 ff. 218–19)
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-7348

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From John Murray   24 October [1870]

Summary

Sends table of sales [of Journal of researches]. 2000 copies sold since 1860.

Descent has gone to press for 2500 copies.

Author:  John Murray
Addressee:  Charles Robert Darwin
Date:  24 Oct [1870]
Classmark:  DAR 171: 380
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-7350

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To John Murray   26 September 1870

Summary

Wants sheets [of Descent] for foreign editions. Asks JM to determine price to be charged for the stereotypes of 62 cuts. Dallas would be excellent for the index but must be "civilly warned" not to delay. Encloses memo on the index.

Author:  Charles Robert Darwin
Addressee:  John Murray
Date:  26 Sept 1870
Classmark:  National Library of Scotland (John Murray Archive) (Ms. 42152 ff. 214–17)
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-7327

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To John Murray   [after 1 July 1870]

Summary

Wants to keep "The origin of man" as first part of title of book.

Author:  Charles Robert Darwin
Addressee:  John Murray; John Murray
Date:  [after 1 July 1870]
Classmark:  DAR 143: 273
Letter no:  DCP-LETT-7050

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