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From Alphonse de Candolle1   10 August 1878

Samaden (Engadine)

10 aout 1878

Mon cher Monsieur

Les nouvelles arrivent tard et incompletement dans l’extrémité orientale de la Suisse et à 1724mets. d’élévation, à douze heures des chemins de fer; cependant un journal m’a appris votre nomination par l’Académie des Sciences de l’Institut, comme correspondant.2 Permettez moi de vous dire à quel degré j’en ai été satisfait. Chose singulière! dans le cas actuel ce n’est pas lélu qu’il faut le plus féliciter—car votre position est si élevée dans la science qu’un titre de plus est assez indifférent— Mais c’est l’Académie à la quelle je m’interesse et qui tardait beaucoup trop à reconnaître vos mérites. Le systeme de presentation par sections vous a nui parcequ’on vous renvoyait de la zoologie à la botanique ou vice versa.3 Malheureusement il y avait aussi des preventions ridicules par des motifs non scientifiques. J’ai craint quelquefois qu’on ne vous traitat comme jadis le Dr Priestley qui avait découvert l’oxygène—c’est vrai—mais qui était républicain, de sorte que les Académies royales de Paris et de Berlin ne le voulaient pas sur leurs listes.4 Enfin vous avez survécu aux objections fausses et hors de place qu’on suscitait contre vous! Elles ne venaient pas des membres de l’Académie que je connais le plus et auxquels je parlais souvent de vous, mais plutot de mathématiciens, physiciens etc, avec lesquels j’ai moins de rapports. Même Mr de Quatrefages, qui combat vos opinions en histoire naturelle, m’a dit avoir voté pour vous dans une autre occasion où la discussion sur votre compte fut très vive.5 La jeunesse francaise vous est plus favorable, surtout en provinces, et la renouvellement du personnel de l’Académie vous aurait fait nommer tot ou tard, mais il vaut mieux que cela soit arrivé maintenant.

Vous aurez recu le 1er volume de nos Monographiæ Phanerogamarum que j’ai dit au libraire de vous envoyer.6 C’est un livre à consulter dans l’occasion, voila tout. A peine une page ou deux dans les généralitées sur les Smilax valent-elles la peine d’attirer votre regard.7 Par parenthese en comparent les Smilax fossiles avec les vivants j’ai pris une triste opinion des prétendues espèces végétales fossiles. Les charactères génériques ne peuvent pas du tout être devinés par les feuilles, qui sont ici la seule chose connue, et encore les feuilles sont reduites à des limbes sans petioles qui ne permettent pas de distinguer des espèces. Je n’ai jamais vu une donnée paléontologique aussi vague.

Mes compliments à Messieurs vos fils.8 Je voudrais les rencontrer une fois dans cette curieuse vallée de l’Engadine où les courses de montagne ont un attrait tout particulier, surtout pour la jeunesse.

Agréez, je vous prie, mon cher Monsieur, l’assurance de me mes sentiments les plus dévoués | Alph. de Candolle

Footnotes

For a translation of this letter, see Appendix I.
Candolle was at the Swiss health resort Samaden (Samedan is the usual English spelling of the name) in the upper Engadine. CD was elected a corresponding member of the botanical section of the Académie des sciences of the Institut de France on 5 August 1878 (see letter from J.-B. Dumas and Joseph Bertrand, 5 August 1878 and n. 2).
CD was nominated six times between 1870 and 1878 for membership of the zoological section of the Académie (Corsi and Weindling 1985, p. 699; see also Correspondence vols. 18, 20, and 21). For more on the controversy surrounding the nominations, see Stebbins 1988, pp. 147–9.
Joseph Priestley, a polemical republican and Unitarian, became a foreign member of the Académie royale des sciences on 26 February 1784 (Schofield 2004, p. 151).
Armand de Quatrefages had promoted CD’s nomination for membership of the zoological section of the Académie des sciences in July 1870; some of the attacks against CD at this time were reported at length in Revue des cours scientifiques (see, for example, Correspondence vol. 18, letter from Armand de Quatrefages, 18 July 1870 and n. 6).
A. de Candolle and Candolle eds. 1878–96. The first three volumes of this work are in the Darwin Library–Down. Candolle worked on the publication with his son Casimir de Candolle.
Smilax is the genus of greenbrier; for more of Candolle’s observations on fertilisation in Smilax, see Correspondence vol. 25, letter from Alphonse de Candolle, 31 July 1877. See also A. de Candolle and Candolle eds. 1878–96, 1: 26–7.
It is not known which of CD’s sons are referred to, but Candolle mentioned Francis Darwin by name in his letter of January 1877 (Correspondence vol. 25), and Francis and Casimir de Candolle shared some of the same research interests.

Bibliography

Correspondence: The correspondence of Charles Darwin. Edited by Frederick Burkhardt et al. 29 vols to date. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. 1985–.

Schofield, Robert E. 2004. The enlightened Joseph Priestley: a study of his life and work from 1773 to 1804. University Park, Pa.: Pennsylvania State University Press.

Stebbins, Robert E. 1988. France. In The comparative reception of Darwinism, edited by Thomas F. Glick. Chicago and London: University of Chicago Press.

Translation

From Alphonse de Candolle1   10 August 1878

Samedan (Engadine)

10 August 1878

My dear Sir

News arrives late and incomplete in the eastern extremity of Switzerland and at 1724mts of elevation, twelve hours away by rail; nevertheless a newspaper informed me of your nomination by the Académie des Sciences de L’Institut, as a correspondent.2 Allow me to tell you just how pleased this made me. How odd! in the current case it is not the one elected who deserves more congratulations—for your position is so elevated in science that one more title is a matter of indifference—Rather it is the Académie that interests me, and that delayed much too long in recognising your merits. The system of induction by section harmed you because it passed you on from the zoological to the botanical or vice versa.3 Sadly there were also ridiculous prejudices from unscientific motives. I sometimes feared lest we treated you as we formerly did Dr Priestley, who had discovered oxygen—it’s true—but who was a republican, so that the royal Academies of Paris and Berlin did not want him on their lists.4 Finally you have survived the false and out-of-place objections that were stirred up against you! They did not come from members of the Académie that I know best and with whom I speak often of you, but more from mathematicians, physicians etc, with whom I have less contact. Even Mr de Quatrefages, who fought your opinions in natural history, told me that he had voted for you on another occasion when the discussion on your account was very lively.5 French youth is more favourable to you, especially in the provinces, and the replacement of personnel in the Académie would have allowed your appointment sooner or later, but it is better that this should have happened now.

You will have received the 1st volume of our Monographiæ Phanerogamarum, which I instructed the bookseller to send you.6 It is a book to consult on occasion, that’s all. At most one or two pages in the generalizations on Smilax are worth the effort to hold your attention.7 As an aside, in comparing the fossil Smilax with living, I gained a sad opinion of the so-called plant fossil species. Generic characteristics can not at all be determined by the leaves, which are here the only thing known, and moreover the leaves are reduced to blades without petioles, which make it impossible to distinguish species. I have never seen so vague a palaeontological fact.

My compliments to your sons.8 I would like to meet them some time in this curious valley of the Engadine where the mountain paths have a special attraction, particularly for the young.

Please be assured, my dear Sir, of my most devoted regards | Alph. de Candolle

Footnotes

For a transcription of this letter in its original French, see pp. 341–2.
Candolle was at the Swiss health resort Samaden (Samedan is the usual English spelling of the name) in the upper Engadine. CD was elected a corresponding member of the botanical section of the Académie des sciences of the Institut de France on 5 August 1878 (see letter from J.-B. Dumas and Joseph Bertrand, 5 August 1878 and n. 2).
CD was nominated six times between 1870 and 1878 for membership of the zoological section of the Académie (Corsi and Weindling 1985, p. 699; see also Correspondence vols. 18, 20, and 21). For more on the controversy surrounding the nominations, see Stebbins 1988, pp. 147–9.
Joseph Priestley, a polemical republican and Unitarian, became a foreign member of the Académie royale des sciences on 26 February 1784 (Schofield 2004, p. 151).
Armand de Quatrefages had promoted CD’s nomination for membership of the zoological section of the Académie des sciences in July 1870; some of the attacks against CD at this time were reported at length in Revue des cours scientifiques (see, for example, Correspondence vol. 18, letter from Armand de Quatrefages, 18 July 1870 and n. 6).
A. de Candolle and Candolle eds. 1878–96. The first three volumes of this work are in the Darwin Library–Down. Candolle worked on the publication with his son Casimir de Candolle.
Smilax is the genus of greenbrier; for more of Candolle’s observations on fertilisation in Smilax, see Correspondence vol. 25, letter from Alphonse de Candolle, 31 July 1877. See also A. de Candolle and Candolle eds. 1878–96, 1: 26–7.
It is not known which of CD’s sons are referred to, but Candolle mentioned Francis Darwin by name in his letter of January 1877 (Correspondence vol. 25), and Francis and Casimir de Candolle shared some of the same research interests.

Bibliography

Correspondence: The correspondence of Charles Darwin. Edited by Frederick Burkhardt et al. 29 vols to date. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. 1985–.

Schofield, Robert E. 2004. The enlightened Joseph Priestley: a study of his life and work from 1773 to 1804. University Park, Pa.: Pennsylvania State University Press.

Stebbins, Robert E. 1988. France. In The comparative reception of Darwinism, edited by Thomas F. Glick. Chicago and London: University of Chicago Press.

Summary

Congratulations on CD’s long-overdue election to the French Academy of Sciences.

Letter details

Letter no.
DCP-LETT-11650
From
Alphonse de Candolle
To
Charles Robert Darwin
Sent from
Samaden
Source of text
DAR 161: 24
Physical description
ALS 3pp (French)

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